#8  Got Change? In conversation with DHL Stormers coach John Dobson

Dan and DHL Stormers Coach, John Dobson, compare and contrast being a published novelist and a successful rugby coach. The two worlds are very different, says John, who shares why, as rugby becomes more popular, he is unable to say some of the things he used to say in his books. As the head coach of one of the world's best-known and most-loved teams, John also shares some fascinating insights into his coaching journey.