This episode plays host to former political speech writer turned consultant and election polling expert, Dawie Scholtz. He explains his voting models and the influencing factors in South Africa from geography to socio-economics to voter psychology. Roman is his usual impolite self about voters and democracy as he probes at the possible outcomes of the ANC elective conference and what this might mean for 2019. Jonathan queries the DA’s recent leftward moves and whether a more liberal party might knock them from their perch. Dawie further details the immaturity of the EFF which is driving voters away, the vacuum the SACP might be poised to fill, and why Mmusi Maimane is the right man for the Presidency.