Ice Swimming & Chips for Breakfast

22.06.20 Pt 2 - Former leader of the ANC Youth League Malusi Gigaba seems to have aged a decade in lockdown. What happens to those who are used to delivering sermons when churches are closed? Ryan Stramrood, the new record holder of the Robben Island crossing swim, joins us to reveal his insight on dealing with suboptimal conditions in life, and in business.